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Showing posts with label SCS Compression. Show all posts
Showing posts with label SCS Compression. Show all posts
Wednesday, December 19, 2012
Thursday, December 13, 2012
HIC vs SCS, A Study by Madis Kukk
This has been a topic of debate among scooter riders pretty much since both these systems came about. What weighs more, HIC (with an oversized double clamp and oversized bars) or SCS (with a quad clamp, normal or oversized bars)? Mr. Kukk applied the good ol scientific process to find out the truth. Read on:
"A friend of mine, Arco, said that I’m a nolifer, but here goes nothing:
since I recently received my next test-run of wees with diffirent crossbars and steertubes (oversized and standard-sized), I’ve wanted to test one of the most wide-spread myths of scooter tech:
HYPOTHESIS:
using standard-sized bars with SCS is lighter than oversized bars with HIC.
__________________________________________
RESEARCH MATERIAL:
[Bars]
* Standard-sized WEE bars, 24x22 minus 1.5” for SCS,
.065” crossbar, raw: 1105g (2lb 7oz)
* Oversized WEE bars, 24x22, full-height (for HIC),
.065” crossbar, raw: 1220g (2lb 11oz)
[SCS]
* Tilt SCS (w/o adapter): 202g (7.1 oz)
* Tilt SCS “LT”-version: 176g (6.2 oz)
* Phoenix Smooth SCS: 160g (5.6 oz)
[HIC adapters]
* aluminium 54mm HIC adapter by TSI: 20g (0.7 oz)
* crmo4130 44mm homemade HIC adapter: 48g (1.7 oz)
* crmo4130 61mm homemade HIC adapter: 66g (2.3 oz)
[Clamps for oversized bars]
* Proto Half Knuckle: 120g (4.2 oz)
* District doubleclamp: 66g (2.3 oz)
[Other shit]
* FSA topcap with 35mm compressionbolt: ~16g (0.6 oz)
* 104mm oversized steertube piece: 126g (4.4 oz)
THUS THROUGH CROSS MULTIPLICATION
a 1.5” / 38mm piece would weigh 46g (1.6 oz)
___________________________________________
ASSEMBLING:
Now, we put some front-end setups together:
___________________________________________
#1 /// Standard-sized bars with SCS
+ Standard-sized bars, 24x22 minus 1.5” for SCS,
+ Phoenix Smooth SCS with aftermarket 25mm bolts,
+ FSA topcap + compressionbolt
= 1282g (2lb (13.2oz)
#2 /// Oversized bars with HIC (alu HIC adapter)
+ Oversized bars, 24x22 full-height for HIC
+ TSI’s HIC adapter, 54mm, aluminium,
+ FSA topcap + compressionbolt
+ Proto Half Knuckle,
cause half knux are the best (and sorry Helmeri,
but fuck district clamps ‘cause their threads strip).
= 1376g (3lb 0.5oz)
#3 /// Oversized bars with HIC (crmo4130 HIC adapter)
Same shit as in #2 but instead
of TSI’s aluminium adapter there’s
the homemade 44mm chrmo4130 HIC adapter.
= 1404g (3lb 1.5oz)
#4 /// Oversized with SCS (!!!)
+ Oversized bars 24x22, raw
+ minus 1.5” for SCS (1220g - 46g = 1174g)
+ Tilt SCS (1 3/8” compatible; without adapter)
+ FSA topcap + compressionbolt
= 1392g (3lb 1.1oz)
The oversized bars with SCS (#4) weight lies between #2 and #3.
______________________________________________________
CONCLUSION:
So you see, not only having standard-sized bars with SCS is lighter than having oversized bars with HIC, but even oversized bars with SCS are basicly in the same weight ratio as oversized bars w/ HIC systems based on Half Knuckles. HIC bars usually have a notch at the bottom of the bars (HIC, ICS and stock bars usually tend to crack at the bottom if a fair amount of gnarliness is applied, eventually happens to every bar that has a notch) and SCS clamps eliminate the notch-cracking issue. Thus: if you’re choosing between SCS and HIC compressions, choose SCS and your bars will last a ton longer, for-fucking-ever.
The only thing you SHOULD choose between is that either if you’re using a standard-sized tube or an oversized bar, because oversized bars (since they are a heavier by 6%) may help with the weight-ratio by distributing the overall weight of your scooter if you’re using a heavier deck (such as a Stan Smirnoff sig. deck) or whatever, depending on your taste.
BOTTOM LINE:
research proves that even if you’re using oversized bars, you should choose SCS instead of HIC cause’ the weight diffirence is slim-to-none and because SCS eliminates the cracking issue due to notches.
-mk"
Props to Madis for going through the trouble to do this.
"A friend of mine, Arco, said that I’m a nolifer, but here goes nothing:
since I recently received my next test-run of wees with diffirent crossbars and steertubes (oversized and standard-sized), I’ve wanted to test one of the most wide-spread myths of scooter tech:
HYPOTHESIS:
using standard-sized bars with SCS is lighter than oversized bars with HIC.
__________________________________________
RESEARCH MATERIAL:
[Bars]
* Standard-sized WEE bars, 24x22 minus 1.5” for SCS,
.065” crossbar, raw: 1105g (2lb 7oz)
* Oversized WEE bars, 24x22, full-height (for HIC),
.065” crossbar, raw: 1220g (2lb 11oz)
[SCS]
* Tilt SCS (w/o adapter): 202g (7.1 oz)
* Tilt SCS “LT”-version: 176g (6.2 oz)
* Phoenix Smooth SCS: 160g (5.6 oz)
[HIC adapters]
* aluminium 54mm HIC adapter by TSI: 20g (0.7 oz)
* crmo4130 44mm homemade HIC adapter: 48g (1.7 oz)
* crmo4130 61mm homemade HIC adapter: 66g (2.3 oz)
[Clamps for oversized bars]
* Proto Half Knuckle: 120g (4.2 oz)
* District doubleclamp: 66g (2.3 oz)
[Other shit]
* FSA topcap with 35mm compressionbolt: ~16g (0.6 oz)
* 104mm oversized steertube piece: 126g (4.4 oz)
THUS THROUGH CROSS MULTIPLICATION
a 1.5” / 38mm piece would weigh 46g (1.6 oz)
___________________________________________
ASSEMBLING:
Now, we put some front-end setups together:
___________________________________________
#1 /// Standard-sized bars with SCS
+ Standard-sized bars, 24x22 minus 1.5” for SCS,
+ Phoenix Smooth SCS with aftermarket 25mm bolts,
+ FSA topcap + compressionbolt
= 1282g (2lb (13.2oz)
#2 /// Oversized bars with HIC (alu HIC adapter)
+ Oversized bars, 24x22 full-height for HIC
+ TSI’s HIC adapter, 54mm, aluminium,
+ FSA topcap + compressionbolt
+ Proto Half Knuckle,
cause half knux are the best (and sorry Helmeri,
but fuck district clamps ‘cause their threads strip).
= 1376g (3lb 0.5oz)
#3 /// Oversized bars with HIC (crmo4130 HIC adapter)
Same shit as in #2 but instead
of TSI’s aluminium adapter there’s
the homemade 44mm chrmo4130 HIC adapter.
= 1404g (3lb 1.5oz)
#4 /// Oversized with SCS (!!!)
+ Oversized bars 24x22, raw
+ minus 1.5” for SCS (1220g - 46g = 1174g)
+ Tilt SCS (1 3/8” compatible; without adapter)
+ FSA topcap + compressionbolt
= 1392g (3lb 1.1oz)
The oversized bars with SCS (#4) weight lies between #2 and #3.
______________________________________________________
CONCLUSION:
So you see, not only having standard-sized bars with SCS is lighter than having oversized bars with HIC, but even oversized bars with SCS are basicly in the same weight ratio as oversized bars w/ HIC systems based on Half Knuckles. HIC bars usually have a notch at the bottom of the bars (HIC, ICS and stock bars usually tend to crack at the bottom if a fair amount of gnarliness is applied, eventually happens to every bar that has a notch) and SCS clamps eliminate the notch-cracking issue. Thus: if you’re choosing between SCS and HIC compressions, choose SCS and your bars will last a ton longer, for-fucking-ever.
The only thing you SHOULD choose between is that either if you’re using a standard-sized tube or an oversized bar, because oversized bars (since they are a heavier by 6%) may help with the weight-ratio by distributing the overall weight of your scooter if you’re using a heavier deck (such as a Stan Smirnoff sig. deck) or whatever, depending on your taste.
BOTTOM LINE:
research proves that even if you’re using oversized bars, you should choose SCS instead of HIC cause’ the weight diffirence is slim-to-none and because SCS eliminates the cracking issue due to notches.
-mk"
Props to Madis for going through the trouble to do this.
Labels:
HIC compression,
Madis Kukk,
SCS Compression
Tuesday, March 27, 2012
New SG Clamps from Scooter Garage

SG recently released a full line of clamps. They covered everything from Standard, to HIC SCS Clamps. Get the full details below.
HIC Standard (3 Bolts)
HIC SCS (4 Bolts)
Standard (3 Bolts)
SCS (4 Bolts)
They are all made with 6061 Allluminum, they come in 5 colors: Red, Black, Blue, Purple and Kryptonite Titanium.
Labels:
CLamps,
ScooterGarage,
SCS,
SCS Compression
Wednesday, February 15, 2012
War Scooters Scooter Compressions Systems Overview

In this video Kevin from War Scooters explains in depth about the different compressions systems used in the sport. SCS, ICS, and HIC. Again, older riders keep your comments to yourself about the nature of the video.
Believe it or not this sport doesn't revolve around you and your "crews". The sport is primarily made up of younger kids, who will find this kind of information pretty useful. Check out the video below.
Also War Scooters is giving away a FREE Grit Scooters T Shirt, and War Scooters T Shirt to a random winner. All you have to do is comment on this video on the War Scooters Facebook! You can reach the Facebook by clicking the link below.
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