I don’t usually bother to back myself up when hated on for my opinions, but after I posted the Dan Barrett video last night, there was a bit of a backlash (48 comments now, as well as everything on Facebook). So I’d like to take a moment to tell you why I made the comments I did, and a little bit more in general about my opinions on videos.
First of all, I was not “hating” on Dan. I have no problem with him going out and drinking, the majority of everyone does it, and he is perfectly legal to do it as well. The fact that I put the video on Inside in the first place shows that I did like the video, and everything I say about the video is constructive criticism. You are sadly mistaken if you think I’d post a video that actually sucked. Obviously I thought Dan’s riding was amazing, like it always is. He’s been one of my favorite riders pretty much as long as I can remember, and has always been a nice guy.
Why did I choose to address the party thing with his video? Why don’t I say anything about Elyts videos, when they have party clips? Perhaps it just pushed me over the edge. Not only did the party clips bum me out but the song, and other riders (because I thought it would be a solo edit of Dan) ruined the vibe for me. I do not want scooter riders to be seen as Mac Miller college partyboy type people, which is the vibe I got from the video. As far as Elyts, thats all they’ve ever been since the beginning so I never took their videos seriously in the first place to even bother commenting on it. Its the same way with Stan Smirnoff, he is known just as much for his smoking habits as his high airs and transfers (he had weed leaves on his signature wheels for God’s sake), so nobody thinks twice when he has a clip of him smoking in his videos.
I can understand the point that party clips help show who the rider is in a video. But if nearly everyone does those things, does it really show who you are? If what you are outside of riding is a weed smoking, alcohol chugging partygoer (not saying thats what Dan looks like, I’m speaking generally now), is that something you want to show people? You want to show you and your friends? Do something more creative, more original. Party clips are like the next cheesiest b-roll footy you can have after bird footage and cloud time lapses. Show another hobby you have, or you at your job, any kind of random moment that happens while out riding even. In Proto Catalyst there was a clip I believe of Sanchez flipping onto a bed in a hotel. Thats the kind of thing thats cool to watch, not a bunch of people just drinking beer.
Please, if anyone still has a problem, leave a comment here or send me a message on Facebook. Thanks to all three of you who will actually read and understand this.
Friday, March 30, 2012
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Jordan Jasa Sucks.
ReplyDeleteSaw you on TV tonight bro...hows the face?
DeleteLol.
Deletei agree with you man. im tired of this party stuff. cool you smoke and drink you do not have to go around and flash it around. its all just a trend.
ReplyDeleteOMG IS THAT TERRY PRICE !?!?!?!
Delete"As far as Elyts, thats all they’ve ever been since the beginning so I never took their videos seriously in the first place to even bother commenting on it."......disrespect
ReplyDeleteI AGREE, even tho i can understand jordan how can that even relate to elyts, they posted ONE video of SD6 with a party in it, that didnt involve lap dances, heavy drinking or drug use...
DeleteJordan still looks like a bug
ReplyDeletehi jordan i TOTALLY agree with you, if people want to smoke drink, thats their choice but why even put that in a scooter video. and i watched it to see dan not his friends, why dont they post it as a single clip on their youtube or make a throwaway of themselves, good riding tho :D
ReplyDeleteBecause DAN wanted this to be a weekend video for us, not just about him. And all of the footy was on his filmers camera, do you really expect us to beg him for our footage?
DeleteIt's not a trend.... it's what people do. You know me Jordan... on a personal level... we've been on tour together and everything. Name one time where I wasnt trying to stir up excitement with random people and asking "where the b!tches at?!" People tend to gravitate toward things that they like or have in common with. It just so happens that you dont like to party, i respect that... but dont bad mouth it. Not to sound arrogant + no offense but with vids like yours... you make me look cool bro ;) we all need eachother to co-exist.
ReplyDeleteI understand this may take some getting used to.... but I'm from New York, fast pace life, all about flashing lights, trending topics, stock excahnage, moolah and all that other stuff. Dan just so happens to be from Phili... which is also a dense fast pace area. You are from,,,, well somewhere a lot more laid back so thats why your videos are the way they are and ours are the way they are.
It's not an "ELYTS" thing.... or a "trendy" thing.... it's a lifestyle... that you just so happen to not be apart of or exposed that much to so you cant relate and it annoys you. Tell you what tho, if you are ever in Cali you can definitely come chill and have yourself a "Mac Miller" , "Lil Wayne" , Music Video episode with your boy ziggy ^_^
PS: I personally like to see you ride tech, never had anything bad to say and appreciate everyone for who they are. I know you're a writer but hating is not "constructive criticism"... if it were, you would supply our veiwers/readers with a solution in order to get something constructive out of it. Take Care bro... Peace.
Defiantly don't agree with jordans comments.
Deleteyou just wrote everything i wanted to say. you the man zig.
DeletePEACE!
Also just wanted to add... articles like this is a great way to get some traffic on your blogs... contraversey does bring a lot of attention. shame you couldnt get more people to read what you write without calling me and my company out. Best of luck to you... hope some of the shine my team and I put together helps you out when you hate on it <3
ReplyDeleteI agree with EVERY single thing Zig has jsut pointed out. How can that be a constructiv criticism when you start it by saying : " The whole putting in drinking/smoking/partying clips thing is so lame though"
ReplyDeleteI mean WTF ? You are a writer, let's even say a journalist and in Journalism, Info equals Power only if it is used a certain way. You coulda introduce this video explaining why some people might be offended by this kinda clip but you chose the personal non constructiv stuff which led people to think " Jordan sucks "
And like Ziggy said : it's not a trend but a LIFESTYLE. Just accept it or don't post it. I can't believe there is ton of great video that has just come out you could have posted, only spending a quarter of all the energy you've just spent justifying yourself in a long post where the majority is not willing to back you up on this.
Jordan,
ReplyDeleteYou can't expect everybody to think like you, maybe Dylan Kasson as I really wouldn't picture him thinking the oposite way than yours on this ( but I could be wrong ^^ ). Scooters is what it is you can't change that. Google bone deth, metal bikes, or even Animal and check out there videos. It's just too funny to see what your reactions would be after watching their vids.
Anyway. the last paragraph shows again your personal opinion on videos which again can't be the same. Not everybody has a job or the chance to flip onto a bed in a hotel room. And personally the last thing I'd like to see in a video is the rider other passion like hunting, or fishing, but if it is , fuck it cos scooters is what it is. Accept it and to be wrong sometimes.
God damn why the hell does everyone bitch about this type of stuff, drinkin, blazzing, Partyin...if you dont like it, dont make a huge dramatic issue about it. Were all getting older, were all from different societys and we all like to ride how we want and make videos how we want. Fuck the rest and live life. Thug/Hesh/DGAF Life
ReplyDelete-Donatelli
yee nick haha;) cali life bitchezz;D!
Deletejordan you need to feel like your "in a dream" again dude. i think its been a while since we chilled in tommys backyard...
ReplyDeleteThat is somewhat true @Jordan Jasa, but as Zig Short said, its a lifestyle. Every single edit of a rider reflects not only his riding, but also presonality and lifestyle. You never see anything, that wouldnt be proper in Elyts videos, nor you could see anything inproper in Barret's video. I am not going against your opinion or anything, but as long, as the videos dont show f*ckin and drugs (Stan Smirnoff is in my opinion nothing else then junkie that has to be high to ride). I will definately write an article about this too and redirect people here. (www.scootforlife.com)
ReplyDeleteLets just keep the emotions low, because as Zig Short said, we need each other to take the sport to a higher level! Adrian
LOL have you ever seen stan try to ride high???
DeleteFuck everyone.
ReplyDelete"Party clips are like the next cheesiest b-roll footy you can have after bird footage and cloud time lapses"
ReplyDeleteSo True.
Do I REALLY want to get into this argument.. Hmm.
ReplyDeleteWhat I'll say is that just because we all ride scooters, doesn't mean we all live the same lives, believe the same things, and do the same things when off our scooters. Everyone is entitled, and completely allowed to live the way they want, and portray that in ANY video they choose to. If they are trying to get a certain reputation by showing themselves doing things in videos, that may be questionable to some, that is their choice.
That being said, there is also nothing wrong with someone voicing their opinion on the matter. Not everyone has to like everyone and what they do. Some people choose to actually make that known, and toss out their opinion. Though in this sport, made up of immature fucks, people end up taking it too seriously, and bam. We have this post.
omg this pretty much made my day
DeleteSteven hit the nail on the head with this post lol
Yourself, JD and Zig know it man! As the kid above me said you have hit the nail on the head.
DeleteOh, as for the edit it was dope, as always Dan Barrett smashes it and the last clip was nuts! The clips that were not riding made the video what it was, personally enjoyable and shows Dan is a boss at life aha <3
Drinking, smoking, partying, riding scooters - that´s lifestyle. If you don´t like it, it doesn´t mean you have to hate it. Just do your thing and people will understand it. We are young so during the day we ride, but in the night we still have energy for the party. Try to live with that, peace. ELYTS life.
ReplyDeletesoooooooooooooooo true
DeleteWhen you have a job besides scootering... i think you start realizing how important chill is aswell as scootering and how lucky we are to do that. So sharing it is a good thing. Working all day with daily routine people... makes that lifestyle even cooler! We can't force people to grow up faster and hell yeah, stay in your dreams boys because real life's quite a mess. I used to be thinking like Jordan a few years ago and i totally understand your reaction. Same shit happened to me when i talked trash about Addict... and in the end, they were right about the lifestyle, taste it and it changes your way of life( still everyone can't necessarily afford partying a lot). One thing we all got in common is that we're all scooter junkies and there will always be retarded fights like that... which increases your stupid traffic stats!
ReplyDeleteahah just read Zig's comment about the stat soaring, had that exact same idea
ReplyDeleteI just want to throw this out there, but this is JORDAN JASA's blog. If you don't like what he says, then don't read it. He started this website, so he can definitely say whatever he wants about videos on here. It doesn't matter if he is talking shit on the video or praising it, he can say what he wants.
ReplyDeleteThis blog has so much influence that it's not a random thing anymore. Role model blog...
DeleteTo be frank, Steven is the only person who posts unbiased articles. As well as actually posting an article amongst news, rather than a short paragraph blog entry. The only people you ever see Jordan plugging on this site are his sponsors and homies. Then you get these posts, defending his "opinions." Because he put people on blast. And considering he's done nothing but start drama, maybe he could get it through his thick skull that maybe he should keep it to himself before he turns into a Dylan Kasson clone. You guys know my stance on the situation, with certain individuals and their recreational activities. Just recently, it started another situation involving you two that also blew up. Your opinions, are unwelcome. And nobody gives a rats ass if you get "bummed" on something. Just because you know how to edit, and think you're the "core" and "true" riders in this sport. It's all an illusion. You're going to look like a bunch of pricks that hate on anything different than what you want perceived. You're selfish. Crying over everything like a child. And I still find it funny that you say you have nothing against a certain someone the. Follow it with a "but his riding was amazing." As if it makes it all okay, justified. But it's not.
DeleteI am not and never will I claim to post unbiased articles...this is a blog that I started, so naturally I will include my own opinions on subjects. As for Stan, hes obviously an idiot and its not okay that he does what he does to the extent that he does it (hope you got that). But it would be pointless to even bother pointing it out, yeah its a double standard but there is literally nothing anyone can do about it.
DeleteBottom line is that if you don't like what I post on Inside, you don't have to read it. If you do, thats awesome, but if you don't, I could not care less. I don't think you really read and understood what I said in the first place anyway...
I like how you try to make the sport out to be more mature by hyping up style and street, yet when there is a few clips of alcohol use you cry about it man. You may as well get used to it Jordan, in a coupe of years the sport is going to be full of people over 21. Alcohol doesn't necessarily give the sport a bad image. Skateboarding is full of piss heads, watch King of the road or a creature video. oh and posting up fucking stupid poll questions pisses me off too. OF COURSE NOONE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT MONGO.
DeleteI can't believe this is causing this much drama. who gives a fuck whats in videos as long as it's not dubstep
ReplyDeleteHahahahaha hell yes
Deleteamen. haahhahahhahahahhaha
DeleteWORD!
DeleteWho gives a fuck :)
ReplyDeleteWhat about James Brady? That guy straight up showed heroin, crack and pills yet NOBODY threw a bitch fit over any of that, and hard drugs are so much more harmful to you than alcohol. In fact everybody loved that guy from what i remember so your all a bunch of hypocrites and everybody that doesn't like a little beer pong must condone hard drugs instead.
ReplyDeleteI understand where you're coming from about the whole party thing, but you gotta understand the whole lifestyle thing like everyone has been pointing out. I personally hate watching scooter videos now because it's all about putting as many tricks into one video now. I love seeing videos of people having fun with scootering, and doing shit they love to do and just putting it all together. Just puts a better vibe in videos
ReplyDeleteshut the fuck up with the lifestyle bullshit, it is not a life style its something you do at night, if it was a lifestyle you'd do it every hour of every day, it'd be like a career. I'm pretty sure drinking and partying is not a career.
ReplyDeleteJersey Shore...
DeleteI smoke trees all God damn day, steadily not givin two shits lol. and I coorelate it with my riding.and it makes me happy. So suck the fattest D lol
Deleteshutup nick you dont ride..
DeleteI don't come on here to read you're personal opinions Jordan, I come on here to get news and watch shit. Everyone has a different style, some are little kids who still play with legos and others are grown riders older than yourself you view shit and enjoy different shit then you. We're sorry you don't like to party and want the scooter world to be seen in the way that you want it.....
ReplyDeletejordan is a dicksniff...nuffsaid
ReplyDeletehes actualy one of the most respected scooter jornalists and this blog your all hating on has pushed to put scootering up with the higher action sports...fuck head learn something call respect
Deleteif we all put clips of what we do at night into our edits, we'd see a bunch of teenagers jerking off, i really dont care who puts what in their edit, but maybe you should all try looking at other peoples perspectives, some people li,a ndsomeng, and some dont, live with it, maybe this world wouldnt be such a bad place if everyone could just spend a day in someone elses shoes willingly
ReplyDeleteI love smokin trees and ridin ma twenty two wide.(:
ReplyDeleteI feel like everybody commenting on this didnt even read the whole thing, including JD and Zig. Jordan tells us that hes not hating on the whole partying thing, just hating that partying is in a video that he was expecting to be all Dan. Which is almost the same as being Rick Rolled, you may have clicked on a video and were expecting something different so you are pretty mad but that doesnt necassarily mean you hate the song, which in this case is the partying.
ReplyDeleteI do think that this is constructive critism. Jasa obviously likes every video he posts. So if he thinks there is a way to make it better, hes obviously going to say it. It is his site after all.....
I personally dont care if its in the video or not but all of you dont understand what Jasa is trying to say.
Thank you, you understand completely.
Deletethat may be what he means but thats not the way he said it.. "lame" and "corny" are not words you use for "constructive criticism"
Deletefinally! Some one who actually payed attention to Jordan's whole article!
Deleteyour welcome :P
ReplyDeletePeople need to loosen up.
ReplyDeleteJordan I think you fully understood the implications of what was going to happen when you said that. People create problems out of no where.
Do you people understand that jordan is a journalist and he is paid to write from his opinion and express his views on currents scooter trends, videos ect. he is mearly expressing his thoughts on one video...You dont seem to give a shit about the other 100s of posts that criticaly breakdown someones riding?
ReplyDeleteTo be honest, the edit was fucking terrible. Dans a massive sell out.
ReplyDelete"Not to sound arrogant + no offense but with vids like yours... you make me look cool bro ;) we all need eachother to co-exist." -Zig Short
ReplyDeletePeople are getting bummed at Jordan for "hating" and Zig posts this, which literally says that Jordan isn't "cool", and that's fine? Zig, you are not cool, and there isn't a damn person who could make you look that way. Stephen Hawking looks like Brad fucking Pitt next to you. See, what I just did was, as you guys call it, hating. It wasn't what Jordan was doing so get the hell over it.
hahaha zig short makes dylan kasson look cool
DeleteI completely agree with you Jordan.
ReplyDeleteI think people are getting more upset with each other, companies, videos, and random posts lately because 75% of the scooter world has become totally GAY (for lack of a more descriptive term).
ReplyDeleteI'd rather cry about people over-hyping bri-flip combos in videos than beer pong. Launching out of 10-foot quarter and doing a twenty-trick combo and then barely landing in the tranny is about as lame as a skateboarder launching out of a 10-foot kicker and flipping his board a hundred times.
I usually have nothing against lifestyle footage in videos but this was obviously a bad example of using these clips. I mean, they left a total "where did that come from?" and "was it really necessary?" feeling, at least for me. Everyone liked James Brady's video because it was well-directed and entertaining; it's safe to say those clips really added the vibe and they had nothing to do with the actual promotion of drugs and that sort of thing, I believe. If you put them out of the video - it won't be the same. If you put out Dan's partying clips - no one except Dan's freinds would be greatly disappointed.
ReplyDeleteMaybe Jordan's description on Dan's video was a bit too harsh, but seriously, if you are using lifestyle clips in your videos, please do it carefully, especially if you are representing a company. Don't forget that this video will be watched not only by your friends (who would definetely enjoy this footage) but by the whole community. I myself sometimes edit these mixed partying/riding videos but I never download them to my youtube channel cause I am sure that's not what my subscribers want to see as they won't get our inside jokes and won't share the mood me and my friends had back then. That's it.
However, if you manage to create a really entertaining video with partying clips - you are welcome, I'd like to see how you are getting down, boys :)
Don't get me wrong, I totally understood what he is trying to say, he just said it the worst way ever " lame" and "corny". You don't even need to be a journalist to understand how not constructiv was his original post.
ReplyDeleteYes I expected my self too to only see dan'z clips, i happened to be positively surprised to see he included some of his friends that might not be as famous as him. When you know how famous is dan, putting his friends in one of his videos is just the coolest thing don't you think ? So at the end I don't know how you can be disapointed by that.
Jordan, it isn't just your blog anymore eventhough you are the one that started it. Brands pay you so that they can have their shit posted up here. That's where I would really love to witness how constructiv you can be cause there is probably more negativ points to point out in most vids posted from brands advertizing on your blog than riders editing shit for themself ( which is truly what riding is all about : doing shit for yourself ).
That's where I say Info = Power. Don't know who said that up in these comments but you are said to be the most respected journalist or something like that. I'm telling you how to run your blog, but if it's your blog in which you want to express your opinions like you said, then DO FOR EVERYBODY. And i'm sure the dan drinkin thing will be the least of your highest criticisms in the sport. If you can't do this, then you are in the other category of the initial journalist's role which is " not to know but to just share the info", it's either you stick to this ( neutral way like : thecomeupbmx.com ) or you critizes everyone on a constructiv wxay. There's no inbetween otherwise your blog will get a bad image.
And apart from Elyts video, I haven't really seen scooter edits including partying footage...
He didnt even hate he just said that he was a little dissapointed that scooter riders are more known for the negative things they do rather than there riding and that the video was not completely dan barrets riding
ReplyDeletewhy do you check ISB when you talk shit on Jordan?
ReplyDeleteJordans constructive criticism doesnt seem good but its good at the end. he just wants to say his own opinion and push the scootering forward!
almost everybody parties and he doesnt put it to his edits. i think dan just wanted to show he´s a "badass".
i, just like probably alot of others come on inside to watch videos.. i couldnt care less about whats written under it. if the ride wire were still up thats where i would be.
DeleteWow I feel like I just finished reading a script on the real house wives of scooters..lol. This entire post was based on peoples opinions everyone's entitled to one but they're not going to change anything. We as a community need to try to push the sport and stop hating on each other. We all ride, this is what the site is supposed to be about. Skating is about expression I say feel free to express what you want in your videos ( my opinion).- Thomas Brown
ReplyDeleteI watched the video with my buddies that are really good skateboarders to see what they thought, and they were literally laughing out loud at the party fillers. Hahahaha they looked so ridiculous and it was so obvious they were trying to be cool its not even funny. Anyway props to jordan for standing by what he said, he's 100% right, keep it up I love this blog Jordan.
ReplyDelete-Brandon Knapp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sONfxPCTU0
ReplyDeleteOR.... maybe he just wanted to show the good time he has having fun with friend as it is not a Proto, Phoenix or whatever sponsor promo, but just DB's world express in a 4.18 edit.
ReplyDeleteAnd who cares about what your " really good " skateboarders think ?
Dan must have just made this edit for him and his friends not your skateboard friends.
It is Jordan's fucking blog, the sponsors pay him, BUT HE HAS THE OPTION TO SAY NO. HIS OPINIONS ARE HIS OWN, cracking wise at the subject is fine, but acting like a crowd of preschoolers is stupid. This is why we aren't fully respected as a sport, the immaturity and fighting.
ReplyDeleteOther sports doesn't spend their time on scooter blogs following us debating so NO That's not the reason we aren't fully respected boy. It's only because their is just to many 10 year old kid on scooters and because we ride a SCOOTER. That's it no more no less. Don't get it twisted
DeleteScooters are for fags. Ride something else pussies.
ReplyDeleteYour name is also ridiculously gay.
DeleteWhy are you even on this scooter blog then?
DeleteI've known jordan for a while now. The first time he watched me ride I felt that he was being a total dick to me, but he wasn't because where I am now in scooter riding ive realized that what he says might sound mean but what he says are usually for a good reason. Now that I talk to jordan, he is a cool guy to me but He does hate alot and Ive realized to accept that about him, because when I make a new edit and show him I like to hear some critism not just the usual "Nice edit man" or "Great riding".
ReplyDeleteAhhh Jordan, not everyone is a non drinking virgin that has nothing better to do than watch scooter videos on a saturday night..
ReplyDeleteAlso if im not mistaken Phil Lagettie came up with the name Inside scooters as the first scooter magazine along with the logos and concept. I have also personally seen the front covers for the magazine too..
every1 shutup about it. its seriosly not a big deal. you mite see it in a vid everynow and then that lasts only a few seconds. its really like its going to kill you if its in a scooter video. simply who cares. so every1 stop being so imatuar about it and drop it. lets move onnn, and go back to just Enjoying riding and not worrying about wats in other peoples vids. :)
ReplyDeletethese kind of vids are awesome as shit but a bad point of view or for some the kids that look up to some of the scooter riders.
ReplyDeletewow this whole reminds me of old school forums fight at skoot skat forums and other geocities based scooter forums smh lol. Just ride and if you're good just know that you have influence over many whether you believe it or not.
ReplyDeletehave you guys seen any other sport complain about their "OWN" sport this bad you just dont come on now
ReplyDeleteAnyone have the link to the video? Cause I want to see it. Thanks.
ReplyDeletewhy is scooters all about complaining and whinging about what another groups of riders and companies do? if we were all the same then our sport would have no diversity. Jordan i met you personally and i read alot of your work, so what you wrote really suprised me that you took such a one sided argument. Fair enough you dont like it, pretty simple. dont post it or watch it, and if your going to write about it, dont take a bias opinion, cover both sides, like good writers do. Peace bro i hope all these intense comments give you a little constructive critism.
ReplyDeletePeace.
Rory Coe
Retard ^^^
Deletehalf of the people who read this didn't even read all of this.. and plus, jordan says that he doesn't care if you make a video of you smoking/drinking/partying, he just says it would be better off not in a scooter edit, which i agree with, but however everyone is entitled to their own opinion. also, i don't understand why this is such a big deal though, dan is a professional, alot of people have criticised on him, i bet. so why pick out jordan out of everyone? not trying to call out anyone, just my thoughts.
ReplyDelete*stan not dan
DeleteEven though no one cares what I think about lol, I thought that the video had a lot of very good riding from everyone. I thought that the partying in the video wasn't good, yet wasn't bad for it. Now little 11 year olds on razor pro's are like omigod, who does this? There is no problem with putting drinking in the video, at least he's doing it responsibly. He has the choice to put this in the video, and if you don't like it, get over it. A few things though, maybe the video should be renamed to "Dan and Friends" or something along those lines, the title now is a bit misleading.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Jordan. Dan is awesome but drinking and smoking B-roll is the most immature and tasteless thing to put in a video.
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry to everyone who is offended by this video. JD and Zig thanks for taking your time and sticking up for me. JD "nailed it on the head" This edit was with me and my crew because they dont have opportunities to get exposed as much as I do. More videos will be coming out this year of me and my crew and what I have coming out this year and it wont all be drinking in my b role but you might be seeing it again.
ReplyDeleteYou should be sorry for them instead, show'em whatever you want to show. That's your video not theres the community will watch it anyway even if there is party clips in there. I hate Magray's new hair cut tho :p. Party time in Montreux Dan like I told you we rent a 130m² appartment with balcony and swimming pool inside. Everyone is welcome to come down there and chill after the MONTREUX.
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