tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7361134599951201795.post35959507379391781..comments2024-03-05T17:34:32.365-06:00Comments on Inside Scooters: Phoenix Pro Scooters starts "SESSION by Phoenix" BrandJordan Jasahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12601855976048782465noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7361134599951201795.post-22626312427010040492013-09-28T15:29:33.126-05:002013-09-28T15:29:33.126-05:00To anyone that is acting like THE BRAND "PHOE...To anyone that is acting like THE BRAND "PHOENIX" is going to be made in China you are WRONG! If you knew how to read you would realize that. Their new BRAND "SESSION" is going to be made in china so they can reach a new market of people because the product will cost less, and as they said QUALITY is going to be the same!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7361134599951201795.post-3463996094831965672013-09-26T19:32:42.128-05:002013-09-26T19:32:42.128-05:00phoenix's old wheels were not produced at all ... phoenix's old wheels were not produced at all in china, i moved them around throughout production (all in Oregon) maybe you didn't like them but they had a 30 day warranty.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7361134599951201795.post-51987829117258581382013-09-26T19:28:57.904-05:002013-09-26T19:28:57.904-05:00fsa's bearings are from Taiwanfsa's bearings are from Taiwan Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7361134599951201795.post-72952633477166390062013-09-21T03:06:33.600-05:002013-09-21T03:06:33.600-05:00From my own experience, growing a brand here in Eu...From my own experience, growing a brand here in Europe (Czech Rep.) is extremely hard. People these days are going the look at each and every cent and dont think about the quality as much anymore. The only way to survive as a company without a huge budget is to reduce margins to minimum, which in the end only results in very little profit and will overtime force you to go to china. I think what scootering needs these days is some kind of product rating scale/system so people dont have to literally dig through forums to know if aa District V2i is better or worse than the Artefact. I have tried to grow a magazine here too that would partly provide this but nobody is simply interested in this aspect of the sport. If we had good quality and reliable media ( not dissing inside here but they are more focused on rider news) people could be educated about the differences and inside bullshit thats going on. Feel free to check out my projects facebook page if you want. Peace<br /><br />Adrian Srajer<br /><br />www.facebook.com/AnalogScooterCoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7361134599951201795.post-59274340749192164882013-09-19T15:41:48.199-05:002013-09-19T15:41:48.199-05:00theres nothing wrong with china based companies at...theres nothing wrong with china based companies at all. but when it comes to the point where ALL companies are based in china. THATS a problem. i remember a time when the scooter industry was about making good parts at a reasonable cost. now look whats its become... a bunch of rich marketing douche bags trying to make money off of kids thats dont know better. honestly i wouldnt mind spending 120$ + for a deck PROVIDING that it does what i expect for the money ive spent on it. speeking from MY experiances.... if im spending 180$ for a deck it should last 3-6 months ATLEAST. dont get me wrong, there are nice china made products out there. EVERY headset out there is china. im not sure on tilt. but i know oddosy and FSA is china. Look at some of the forks out there today. district forks are still using spacers.... and honestly if there gonna make their fork in china its not gonna cost em much more to add an intagrated spacer.... another thing with all of the district/addict/ethic style forks. they have that STUPID ics.... i mean i understand the whole not using the 8 inch bolt but now you have to have a CUSTOM made 10 inch allen wrench. another 2 oz isnt gonna effect your rididng im sorry... No disrespect to anybody. just expressing my opinion. <br /><br /><br />-max demossAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7361134599951201795.post-25431614871339454252013-09-18T18:04:58.976-05:002013-09-18T18:04:58.976-05:00MERICA!MERICA!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7361134599951201795.post-38440849015383854362013-09-18T10:49:16.231-05:002013-09-18T10:49:16.231-05:00Everything from epic is made in the good old USA a...Everything from epic is made in the good old USA as well<br /><br />Nick Darger Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7361134599951201795.post-89377208615968633032013-09-17T23:56:17.133-05:002013-09-17T23:56:17.133-05:00The decks as of now are still USA made
Nick Darg...The decks as of now are still USA made <br /><br />Nick Darger Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7361134599951201795.post-55580212806261314422013-09-17T22:32:48.506-05:002013-09-17T22:32:48.506-05:00Tilt as well. Tilt as well. Jordan Jasahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12601855976048782465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7361134599951201795.post-61080590316480340662013-09-17T22:24:43.699-05:002013-09-17T22:24:43.699-05:00and perhaps Tilt? TSI, Tilt and Proto.and perhaps Tilt? TSI, Tilt and Proto.Travis Househttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05207678589828042744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7361134599951201795.post-89753512310681896112013-09-17T21:12:56.958-05:002013-09-17T21:12:56.958-05:00cap·i·tal·ism [ káppit'l ìzzəm ]
free-marke...cap·i·tal·ism [ káppit'l ìzzəm ] <br />free-market system: an economic system based on the private ownership of the means of production and distribution of goods, characterized by a free competitive market and motivation by profitAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7361134599951201795.post-74238016978330713022013-09-17T20:03:44.214-05:002013-09-17T20:03:44.214-05:00Heavy. i don't really know how to respond to t...Heavy. i don't really know how to respond to this. Phoenix has always been top notch quality wise. Can't lie about that but dang. <br /><br />-tyler wheelandAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7361134599951201795.post-47072415190651992622013-09-17T19:44:41.446-05:002013-09-17T19:44:41.446-05:00Sorry that Phoenix finally had to cave and move a ...Sorry that Phoenix finally had to cave and move a chunk of production to China. Unfortunately, it's gonna continue happening to USA-based companies like it has been for the last few decades. Not to make excuses, but it's somewhat forced upon many companies, like Phoenix. <br /><br />At some point, it's incredibly hard to increase profit margins and you eventually stall. It's not about getting more money for your personal wealth. It's about being able to expand and grow your company, which is a vital part of a company's success. If you don't have the financial ability to play with new designs and ideas, then running a company begins to become a boring chore, which will also negatively affect your riders (If you're a company with riders). Maybe Phoenix could have barely survived and found ways to cut costs, but I'm sure they're more interested in flourishing as a company and having a little more freedom to influence the rest of the world's riders. That's the American way, like it or not. (Sorry if I sound like a nationalist)Masherhttp://www.insidescooters.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7361134599951201795.post-10476643599623860382013-09-17T18:31:29.232-05:002013-09-17T18:31:29.232-05:00Why are you trying to slate them going to china? d...Why are you trying to slate them going to china? do you not understand the world of business and that you have to adapt to the industry you're in.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7361134599951201795.post-33216304705893647332013-09-17T17:26:48.793-05:002013-09-17T17:26:48.793-05:00stupid stupid stupidstupid stupid stupidAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7361134599951201795.post-56970391016383369732013-09-17T17:22:43.335-05:002013-09-17T17:22:43.335-05:00TSI always has and still does make every single on...TSI always has and still does make every single one of their parts in Portland, Oregon.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08033943707554955018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7361134599951201795.post-91932978200593708732013-09-17T17:16:31.431-05:002013-09-17T17:16:31.431-05:00Every single tsi part has and is made in the u.s.Every single tsi part has and is made in the u.s.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08033943707554955018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7361134599951201795.post-51625365619972706072013-09-17T16:13:43.455-05:002013-09-17T16:13:43.455-05:00Very difficult and complicated subject to discuss....Very difficult and complicated subject to discuss. First off, the pursuit off going to china to produce cheap products is not encouraged solely by the brands and companies themselves. It is both the riders wanting to only opt for the cheap parts to save a few quid, and also shops demanding -in most cases- a large 50% profit margin (Which is much higher than the brands will take). But at the same time, can you really blame them? the target audience of scooter parts is a very young and generally non-affluent group. And within the recession, it has become harder for shop and small business owners of all kinds to make a living. The cheap products bring in the customers, and the big margins bring in the money, which at the end of the day, you need to make to pay the bills.<br /><br />So is it unethical to support the "made in china" products, or just what you need to do to survive? I know from first hand experience of trying to create and sell a homeland made product how difficult it can be, and clearly Phoenix are struggling too. For me it ultimately ended with my business losing money as customers only went elsewhere, and the end result being that I was in-able to provide jobs and opportunity's for anyone, let alone people of my own country. In hindsight I would have done things differently, and of course in my next venture I will, with the hopes of being able to pay my own bills and that of many more staff that will be needed to follow.<br /><br />To sum up I think that Phoenix have hit the nail on the head here and are doing a good thing by trying to provide both a quality product that appeals to the lower end of the market, whilst retaining hold of a highly respected American-owned business which provides a no-compromise product for those with the budget.Robert Formannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7361134599951201795.post-16519886817709782202013-09-17T15:53:59.880-05:002013-09-17T15:53:59.880-05:00I snapped my session at woodward and they wobt war...I snapped my session at woodward and they wobt warranty it and it was 3 months oldAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03731505196722295188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7361134599951201795.post-17857934113170501952013-09-17T15:22:00.224-05:002013-09-17T15:22:00.224-05:00Agree with above. It's funny how all of these ...Agree with above. It's funny how all of these "Made in USA" companies claim that but in reality they go to China too.<br /><br />Only company that is made in USA, is PROTO..that's it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7361134599951201795.post-84761069263425288012013-09-17T14:42:01.192-05:002013-09-17T14:42:01.192-05:00HAHAHAH always talking shit about China made produ...HAHAHAH always talking shit about China made products and being "American Made" what a joke.<br />P.S. Everyone knew ur wheels were made in China too LOLAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7361134599951201795.post-51391749445145164362013-09-17T14:31:52.901-05:002013-09-17T14:31:52.901-05:00So were all Session Deck previous to this release ...So were all Session Deck previous to this release manufactured in the USA?<br /><br />D.Wilson / Dad / Sponsor of 4Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com